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dh



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: wood stove questions Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find
have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice
in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can
anyone suggest any stove(s) that they feel are good
and affordable, and any suggestions about use etc?

Thanks for any help!
David

PS in case anyone is interested in what I've found
so far, or wants proof that I've done some looking
on my own as well as asking for people to share
what they've learned, here is a list of some related
websites:

http://www.calarmy.com/tents/
http://www.kni-co.com/
http://tinyurl.com/9pbxv
http://www.aaoobfoods.com/shepherdstoves.htm#2%20DX
http://davistent.com/davisTent/html/WoodStoves.html
http://www.cylinderstoves.com/deframe%20defaultstovepricing.htm
http://www.walltentshop.com/CatStoves.html
http://www.fourdog.com/page2.html
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/hvac/hunter_manufacturing/

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Mungo Bulge



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

Most of the referenced web pages all have the same stoves, along with
the warning that these stoves are "out door use" appliances, meaning
"don't use them in confined spaces cottages and trailers (house
boats).
If you are going to insist on putting a wood burning heater/stove,
make sure it has facility to use external air for combustion. A good
fire can consume a lot of the usable air within a closed space
quickly.


wrote in message @4ax.com...
| Hi,
|
| I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
| winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
| in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find
| have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice
| in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can
| anyone suggest any stove(s) that they feel are good
| and affordable, and any suggestions about use etc?
|
| Thanks for any help!
| David
|
| PS in case anyone is interested in what I've found
| so far, or wants proof that I've done some looking
| on my own as well as asking for people to share
| what they've learned, here is a list of some related
| websites:
|
| http://www.calarmy.com/tents/
| http://www.kni-co.com/
| http://tinyurl.com/9pbxv
| http://www.aaoobfoods.com/shepherdstoves.htm#2%20DX
| http://davistent.com/davisTent/html/WoodStoves.html
| http://www.cylinderstoves.com/deframe%20defaultstovepricing.htm
| http://www.walltentshop.com/CatStoves.html
| http://www.fourdog.com/page2.html
|
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/hvac/hunter_manufacturing/
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Reynaud



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

wrote in message @4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
> winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
> in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find
> have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice
> in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can
> anyone suggest any stove(s) that they feel are good
> and affordable, and any suggestions about use etc?
>
> Thanks for any help!
> David
>
> PS in case anyone is interested in what I've found
> so far, or wants proof that I've done some looking
> on my own as well as asking for people to share
> what they've learned, here is a list of some related
> websites:
>
>

You must be wacko why the hell would anyone want an woodstove on an boat? It
is dangerous enough without adding another fire hazard. There are all sorts
of safe fuel burners.
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thunder



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:47:24 -0400, dh wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this winter, and I'd
> like to have a small wood stove to use in it. All the small wood stoves
> I've been able to find have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice
> in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can anyone suggest any
> stove(s) that they feel are good and affordable, and any suggestions about
> use etc?

Navigator Stove Works make a marine wood burner.

http://www.marinestove.com/

Although, there are alternatives. Quite a bit of information can be found
here:

http://www.cruisingresources.com/Full_Heating_the_Boat.asp
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Meindert Sprang



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

"Reynaud" wrote in message$mN.85890@news1.mts.net...
> You must be wacko why the hell would anyone want an woodstove on an boat?
It
> is dangerous enough without adding another fire hazard. There are all
sorts
> of safe fuel burners.

Mmm..... when wast the last time I saw wood vapour catching fire from a
spark.....

Meindert
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Paul Tomblin



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

In a previous article, dh@. said:
>I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
>winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
>in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find

I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood
stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
--Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
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Terry Spragg



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

Reynaud wrote:

> wrote in message @4ax.com...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
>>winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
>>in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find
>>have been camping related, so I'm asking for advice
>>in camping groups as well as boating groups. Can
>>anyone suggest any stove(s) that they feel are good
>>and affordable, and any suggestions about use etc?
>>
>>Thanks for any help!
>>David
>>
>>PS in case anyone is interested in what I've found
>>so far, or wants proof that I've done some looking
>>on my own as well as asking for people to share
>>what they've learned, here is a list of some related
>>websites:
>>
>>
>
>
> You must be wacko why the hell would anyone want an woodstove on an boat? It
> is dangerous enough without adding another fire hazard. There are all sorts
> of safe fuel burners.
>

Safe? I would like to see a snug fitting stovepipe burner for fire
logs, throttleable, extinguishable, forced draught water heater, for
tea, washing, remote heating, even a steam boiler an engine, excess
steam vented under bustle to increase hull speed.

Unsafe? How about them fireballs you always see when jets blow up?
They use diesel oil for fuel.

Naw! You can swim through a crowd of burning firelogs, put them out
with a wet hat, even make a raft. Try that in burning bunker C, the
"safest" fuel. I wonder if firelogs could be made edible from entire
canola plants?

Terry K
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Brian



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

you might try contacting a wood stove restorer like Key Center Trading Post
in WA (Gig Harbor). They often have stuff in their warehouse and will sell
at a reasonable price (if there is any such thing).

Brian
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Terry Spragg



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

Paul Tomblin wrote:
> In a previous article, dh@. said:
>
>>I have a houseboat that I'd like to take out some this
>>winter, and I'd like to have a small wood stove to use
>>in it. All the small wood stoves I've been able to find
>
>
> I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood
> stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
> rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.
>
If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd
prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good
heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap."

(The classic "Newfie wooden stove" is a packing crate, empty, with
smoke pipe. They can be burned only once. Deluxe versions come
stuffed with wadded up Globe and Mail newsprint press rejects and
roll ends (insert most hated newspaper name, here) "Kindling
included, easier to light, b'y"

Do any wood burners use a 2 liter Sprite bottle of water with a hole
poked in the cap for a class "A" fire extinguisher, parked right
next to the wood stove? Does it save insurance costs?

Haw!

Terry K

Terry K
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Paul Tomblin



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

In a previous article, Terry Spragg said:
>Paul Tomblin wrote:
>> I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood
>> stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
>> rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.
>>
>If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd
>prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good
>heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap."

You can't have your kayak and heat it too.


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Quality Control, n.:
The process of testing one out of every 1,000 units coming off
a production line to make sure that at least one out of 100 works.
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Brian Whatcott



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:31:29 +0000 (UTC), ptomblin+netnews@xcski.com
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

>In a previous article, Terry Spragg said:
>>Paul Tomblin wrote:
>>> I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood
>>> stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
>>> rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.....

>You can't have your kayak and heat it too.

Good one!

Brian Whatcott Altus, OK
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Cyli



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:31:29 +0000 (UTC), ptomblin+netnews@xcski.com
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

>In a previous article, Terry Spragg said:
>>Paul Tomblin wrote:
>>> I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put wood
>>> stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
>>> rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.
>>>
>>If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd
>>prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good
>>heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap."
>
>You can't have your kayak and heat it too.


Thank you. I've always loved that joke.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Fred Klingener



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message$ip5$1@allhats.xcski.com...
> In a previous article, Terry Spragg said:
> >Paul Tomblin wrote:
> >> I very much doubt that there are any canoers or kayakers who've put
wood
> >> stoves in their boats, so I fail to see why you included
> >> rec.boats.paddle.touring in your posting.
> >>
> >If charcoal burning hand warmers are not wood heaters, perhaps you'd
> >prefer a New Found Land and Labrador wooden stove? "Gives good
> >heat, can burn for 24 hours, b'y. Replacement stoves, cheap."
>
> You can't have your kayak and heat it too.

Was this whole thread a setup?

Fred Klingener
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Paul Tomblin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

In a previous article, "Fred Klingener" said:
>"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
>$ip5$1@allhats.xcski.com...
>> You can't have your kayak and heat it too.
>
>Was this whole thread a setup?

Only my part.


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Gogarty



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: wood stove questions Reply with quote

In article ,
rexbradley@sympatico.ca says...
>
>
>This is the third time I have tried to say this and if it does not go
>through then I'll deep six this site. There is a solid fuel heater
>NEWPORT by Dickinson. It looks like any other propane or diesel heater
>bulkhead mounted. I have one and use sterno which works fine. A friend
>has one and uses selfstarting charcoal to start cannel coal, which is a
>fireplace coal. We only haul our boats for maintenance and need some
>BTU's in the winter months.
>

We have had a Newport Dickinson solid fuel heater on the boat for
several years. Can't be beat. But if it's wood you plan to burn you
better have a huge woodpile. This thing will go through a twenty foot 2 X
4 in an hour while glowing cherry red and really heating up the place. We
eventually settled on a mix of real charcoal (avoid briquettes like the
plague -- what's in those things anyway?) and pea size anthracite coal.
We had to install a fan on the front of the ash drawer to provide a
forced draft to keep the coal burning. The fan is a Radio Shack computer
fan. The fire will burn for hours and generates very little ash. Just
poke it once in awhile and add bits of coal and charcoal. Fire tending is
in itself a relaxing occupation. And nothing equals the glow and warmth
of a real fire as compared to the anemic flame of a diesel fired heater.

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