My decision for next year.

Micheal Artindale · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

I have posted in the past that I may be leaving the organization at the end
of this season.....

I have decided what I will be doing in the fall.

If there is sufficient youth and adults, 12 and 2 respectivly, then I stay
at my current group(there is leway numbers with the youth, but not the
adults). If we do not have sufficient numbers, I will leave this group, and
likely join up with the group that we are bunking up with. I have discussed
this with the leaders of both groups. the other group would welcome me. My
group is saying that I will cause this group to fold. As I understand it,
ife we cannot generate the members, then it is them, me and the area and up
that are at fault, not just me.

This means that I will enter my 8th year as a cub leader.

Just thought you may want to know.

Micheal

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Blaeden · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

I used to think it was my responsibility to recruit new members to the Troop
but I got over that quickly. The last group I was in finely folded once
there were only three scouts registered one year. I felt bad but with only
one leader (me) we just couldn't do it. As it was we had a parents
committee of three, one Guide leader with no connection to Scouting other
then a desire to help as the Chairman, one parent who's kid had left
scouting two years prior who was willing to stay on and help as treasurer
and one mother of a scout who acted as a secretary.

What I found was ironic was that the next year we went back to the public
school (it was a rural community so there was only one school) and did a
presentation on scouting now that I was active on District staff. We were
swamped with interested people. We had over 150 kids playing in the gym
with what leaders there were, augmented by a few Girl Guide leaders (my wife
and a few that pitched in to help manage all the kids) as well at least one
parent from each of those kids listening to the presentation on scouting in
the school library.

Interest? I have never seen such interest in a small community when it came
to getting a scouting program going and getting their kids involved in
Scouting. Where the interest died and died quick is when we said that we
had a small but dedicated corps of experienced leaders willing to get things
going again but we needed help from some parents to make it happen. With
150 or so kids wanting Scouting and just as many parents interested in
putting their kids in scouting...guess how many came forward and said they
would help out? Not one!!!!! You would have thought by their reaction that
they had attended a scouting briefing only to find out we were selling time
share condos in Florida.

They have managed to keep one Cub pack going in the community by borrowing a
Group Committee from a neighboring community but one day, very shortly, that
won't even exist and Scouting will be dead (or should I say "deader" ) in
that community.

The point I am trying to make is that you have your hands full running the
Crew/Company/Troop/Pack/Colony. You can't be expected to be the chairman,
treasurer, quartermaster, recruiter and father confessor for the whole
group. As my daughter puts it, the "circle of life" applies to everything.
Groups are born, groups grow, groups fade and sometimes groups die. If and
when there is community interest it will be reborn again but it may or may
not be within your time there.

Good luck with it no matter which way it goes but remember not to let them
guilt you into anything you can't and shouldn't be doing.

Blae

"Micheal Artindale" wrote in message $MZ2.78372@news20.bellglobal.com...
>I have posted in the past that I may be leaving the organization at the end
> of this season.....
>
> I have decided what I will be doing in the fall.
>
> If there is sufficient youth and adults, 12 and 2 respectivly, then I stay
> at my current group(there is leway numbers with the youth, but not the
> adults). If we do not have sufficient numbers, I will leave this group,
> and
> likely join up with the group that we are bunking up with. I have
> discussed
> this with the leaders of both groups. the other group would welcome me. My
> group is saying that I will cause this group to fold. As I understand it,
> ife we cannot generate the members, then it is them, me and the area and
> up
> that are at fault, not just me.
>
> This means that I will enter my 8th year as a cub leader.
>
> Just thought you may want to know.
>
> Micheal
>
>

xachary · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Hi Micheal,

As a leader, it is your job to run an excellent program so that the
kids who currently participate will enjoy the program enough so that
they will stay and encourage their friends to join.

One of my cub leader friends in Toronto, who is having problems with
his group committee, has told the his group that he will not be
returning next year. He won't be leaving scouting as he sees himself
as a scouter within and outside the Scouts Canada organization. He
can join another group withing Scouts Canada. Or he can "play the
game" outside Scouts Canada either formally in another scouting
organization or informally with his fellow adult friends and their
children.

I did leave a group once because I had no support and sometimes
oppostion to some of the activities that I wanted to do. "Too many
camps" was one problem I heard. Is four per year too many for cubs?
Quatre? Vier? Cuatro? Quoi?

Xachary

> >
> > Do not allow them to play any head games on you. Walk into the Committee
> > and tell them like it is: "Either you do something constructive right
> now,
> > or YOUR Pack is toast. I will still have a Pack come September. You will
> > not."
>
> Now that is the most childish thing you have ever typed... I like it. I will
> go to the next meeting anyway to remind them that innaction will result in
> no group next year.
>
>
> Micheal

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