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Jim Logajan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"Jamie and Adam take wing to test if a person with no flight training can
safely land an airplane and if a plane can take off from a conveyor belt
speeding in the opposite direction. Tory, Grant, and Kari jump on some
Hollywood-inspired skydiving myths."

Quoted from the Discovery channel schedule:
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=1.13056.24704.3913.x

(My local paper's weekly TV schedule has just the brief summary "Landing a
747" so I presume the plane they attempt to land without training is a 747.
Will be interesting to see if they try the real thing and are not limited
to a simulator.)

Archived from group: rec>aviation>homebuilt
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Bob Noel



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

In article ,
James Sleeman wrote:

> On Dec 9, 6:32 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
> > safely land an airplane and if a plane can take off from a conveyor belt
>
> Oh lordy, here we go again, I sense an enormous thread coming.

maybe we can get a rec.aviation.treadmill out of this...

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Vacant lot



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message @216.168.3.30...
> "Jamie and Adam take wing to test if a person with no flight training can
> safely land an airplane and if a plane can take off from a conveyor belt
> speeding in the opposite direction. Tory, Grant, and Kari jump on some
> Hollywood-inspired skydiving myths."
>

I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already know
the answer. What are they trying to prove? I've seen the show but I watch
very little tv, have they run out of urban myths?
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B A R R Y



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
wrote:

>I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
>know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already know
>the answer. What are they trying to prove?

If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
hundred messages here?
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Dudley Henriques



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>> talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
>> know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>> aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already know
>> the answer. What are they trying to prove?
>
> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
> hundred messages here?


It shouldn't Smile

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Maxwell



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"B A R R Y" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
> wrote:
>
>>I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>>talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
>>know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>>aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already
>>know
>>the answer. What are they trying to prove?
>
> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
> hundred messages here?

Only because there are one or two nit pickers on here....
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Blueskies



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"Maxwell" wrote in message $yV5.116@newsfe15.phx...
>
> "B A R R Y" wrote in message @4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>>>talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
>>>know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>>>aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already know
>>>the answer. What are they trying to prove?
>>
>> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
>> hundred messages here?
>
> Only because there are one or two nit pickers on here....
>

Maybe we should start the thread drift right here and now....

You know, people would fully understand that a plane on a treadmill will not start flying if we had a good educational
system. Liberal use of aerodynamic principles leads to stall spin accidents, and everyone knows the dreaded downwind
turn was by global warming...
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muff528



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"Blueskies" wrote in message $lD6.3564@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Maxwell" wrote in message
> $yV5.116@newsfe15.phx...
>>
>> "B A R R Y" wrote in message
>> @4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>>>>talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you
>>>>already
>>>>know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>>>>aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already
>>>>know
>>>>the answer. What are they trying to prove?
>>>
>>> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
>>> hundred messages here?
>>
>> Only because there are one or two nit pickers on here....
>>
>
> Maybe we should start the thread drift right here and now....
>
> You know, people would fully understand that a plane on a treadmill will
> not start flying if we had a good educational system. Liberal use of
> aerodynamic principles leads to stall spin accidents, and everyone knows
> the dreaded downwind turn was by global warming...
>
>

Hang on!....Here we go again! :0)
TP
>
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Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"B A R R Y" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw"
> wrote:
>
>>I don't understand the premise of the conveyor belt thing. If you are
>>talking about thrusting an aircraft forward, like a catapult, you already
>>know the answer, and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
>>aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already
>>know
>>the answer. What are they trying to prove?
>
> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
> hundred messages here?

Because the answer depends on a lot of assumptions that are not stated as
part of the original question.

:-p

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Dallas



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:12:27 -0400, Goshhawk@westlink.tw wrote:

> and if the belt is running so the the wheels of the
> aircraft are spinning madly while it stays still then again you already know
> the answer. What are they trying to prove?

I guess there are still a couple of people out there that believe the
aircraft won't take off.


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Dan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

James Sleeman wrote:
> On Dec 9, 6:32 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
>> safely land an airplane and if a plane can take off from a conveyor belt
>
> Oh lordy, here we go again, I sense an enormous thread coming.


It's not how big the thread is, it's how you use it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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B A R R Y



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:02:36 -0500, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

>B A R R Y wrote:
>>
>> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
>> hundred messages here?
>
>
>It shouldn't Smile


I agree.
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cavelamb himself



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:02:36 -0500, Dudley Henriques
> wrote:
>
>
>>B A R R Y wrote:
>>
>>>If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
>>>hundred messages here?
>>
>>
>>It shouldn't Smile
>
>
>
> I agree.


Make that unanimous

Can we drop it now?!
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B A R R Y



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:33:15 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:


>
>Can we drop it now?!

I already did.
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Morgans



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour Reply with quote

"B A R R Y" wrote

> If it were so cut and dried, why does it generate threads of several
> hundred messages here?

Just goes to show that there are a LOT of stupid people out there, posting
on usenet.

But we knew that, with Anthony as their posterboy. Sad
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