FCC Confiscates Dishes at AZ RV Park

Bill Karn · Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 1

I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
installation requirements of the provider. Namely, the tripod and
ground mounted dishes were collected up and hauled away. I called the
Phoenix office (busy) and checked online but could not find any
further information. Anyone else know about this? Thanks,

Bill

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Ralph E Lindberg · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 42

In article ,
Bill Karn wrote:

> I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
> snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
> and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
> installation requirements of the provider. Namely, the tripod and
> ground mounted dishes were collected up and hauled away. I called the
> Phoenix office (busy) and checked online but could not find any
> further information. Anyone else know about this? Thanks,
>
> Bill

No, and knowing how thin the FCC is stretched it would surprise me

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Jim Redelfs · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 43

In article ,
Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

>> the FCC swooped in and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that
>> did not meet the installation requirements of the provider.

> knowing how thin the FCC is stretched it would surprise me

Agreed.

This "stinks" on severals levels: Confiscation of private property by a
federal entity would require REAMS of paperwork including warrants and the
coordination of probably more than one enforcement agency.

The installation requirements, as set forth by a PROVIDER, of receiving
apparatus would be of virtually no concern to the FCC. If the apparatus was
also capable of transmitting, but was operating within the output parameters
as licensed by the FCC, I still can't imagine them becoming involved,
certainly not how the dish is INSTALLED.

Caveat: I know little about the power output of residential-grade, two-way
internet/satellite uplinks. To have numerous, neighboring setups confiscated
in a single operation would make quite a "splash".

Using the following expression in Google, after a modest search, I found no
reference to the alleged confiscation:

Green Valley Arizona RV FCC satellite internet

http://www.fcc.gov
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Don Bradner · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 57

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:23:26 -0600, Bill Karn
wrote:

>I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
>snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
>and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
>installation requirements of the provider. Namely, the tripod and
>ground mounted dishes were collected up and hauled away. I called the
>Phoenix office (busy) and checked online but could not find any
>further information. Anyone else know about this? Thanks,

Highly unlikely. No comments in any online satellite group. No FCC
rule or regulation on the installation of such dishes.

The kicker is that you would have great trouble establishing what
does, or doesn't meet the requirements of the provider(s). Starband
has clearly allowed tripods. Hughes has allowed tripods under limited
conditions since February of '07.

Put it all together and it becomes implausible to a great degree.
Don Bradner
donb (not don) at arcatapet.com
'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder" towing '07 Jeep Liberty
Posting today by Satellite from
Dead Horse Ranch State Park
Cottonwood, AZ

miles · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 45

Don Bradner wrote:

> The kicker is that you would have great trouble establishing what
> does, or doesn't meet the requirements of the provider(s). Starband
> has clearly allowed tripods. Hughes has allowed tripods under limited
> conditions since February of '07.

The FCC doesn't care about a providers requirements and doesn't enforce
such. They enforce FCC regulations. A city or county may have laws
stipulating antenna height and mounting restrictions etc. but the FCC
won't give a dang.

The Bobert · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

In article ,
Don Bradner wrote:

> >I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
> >snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
> >and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
> >installation requirements of the provider. Namely, the tripod and
> >ground mounted dishes were collected up and hauled away. I called the
> >Phoenix office (busy) and checked online but could not find any
> >further information. Anyone else know about this? Thanks,
>
> Highly unlikely. No comments in any online satellite group. No FCC
> rule or regulation on the installation of such dishes.

Seems like I remember a gov't rule that all sat internet dishes had to be
above 6' so they don't zap pacemakers. Just like having a jolt of bare
microwave waves hit you. That's why I think there could be a shred of truth
here

Whynot call the RV Park?

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Don Bradner · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 57

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:48:02 GMT, The Bobert
wrote:

>Seems like I remember a gov't rule that all sat internet dishes had to be
>above 6' so they don't zap pacemakers. Just like having a jolt of bare
>microwave waves hit you. That's why I think there could be a shred of truth
>here
>
>Whynot call the RV Park?

Why not start with this: You remember wrong (more likely you remember
something you were told, by someone who was wrong). No such government
rule. There is a provider rule, with numerous provider exceptions.
None with force of law.

Once you understand that, and learn that the 1-watt output is shutdown
by anything (such as a body) in the path, you will see that it
wouldn't matter if the RV Park actually told you it happened - it is
still extremely unlikely.

Don Bradner
donb (not don) at arcatapet.com
'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder" towing '07 Jeep Liberty
Posting today by Satellite from
Dead Horse Ranch State Park
Cottonwood, AZ

Billy · Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 6

The Bobert wrote:
> In article ,
> Don Bradner wrote:
>
>>> I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
>>> snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
>>> and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
>>> installation requirements of the provider. Namely, the tripod and
>>> ground mounted dishes were collected up and hauled away. I called the
>>> Phoenix office (busy) and checked online but could not find any
>>> further information. Anyone else know about this? Thanks,
>> Highly unlikely. No comments in any online satellite group. No FCC
>> rule or regulation on the installation of such dishes.
>
> Seems like I remember a gov't rule that all sat internet dishes had to be
> above 6' so they don't zap pacemakers. Just like having a jolt of bare
> microwave waves hit you. That's why I think there could be a shred of truth
> here
>
> Whynot call the RV Park?
>
I didn't know that sat reciever dishes emitted anything.

Don Bradner · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 57

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:05 -0600, Billy wrote:

>The Bobert wrote:
>> In article ,
>> Don Bradner wrote:
>>
>>>> I stayed at an RV park in Green Valley AZ last week. Several of the
>>>> snowbirds reported that during the previous week the FCC swooped in
>>>> and confiscated any satellite internet dishes that did not meet the
>>>> installation requirements of the provider.
>>
>> Seems like I remember a gov't rule that all sat internet dishes had to be
>> above 6' so they don't zap pacemakers. Just like having a jolt of bare
>> microwave waves hit you. That's why I think there could be a shred of truth
>> here
>>
>> Whynot call the RV Park?
>>
>I didn't know that sat reciever dishes emitted anything.

I haven't seen a receive-only internet dish in years. I know they
exist, but highly impractical for RVers, so we use 2-way dishes. Their
emissions are not strong, and have built-in safe-guards, but they
definitely do emit.

Don Bradner
donb (not don) at arcatapet.com
'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder" towing '07 Jeep Liberty
Posting today by Satellite from
Dead Horse Ranch State Park
Cottonwood, AZ

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